LiveBlogging The WaterCarrier with Spector and Tieleman....

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Oooohhhhh.....it's 10:15am and the Watercarrier is going to the BC Rail issue with Tieleman and Spector....

Watercarrier defending Mr. Kinsella because 'friends' are not necessarily employees/consultants/lobbyists....

Spector says that it doesn't matter if Mr. K was employed by both BCR and CN simultaneously while the latter was 'bidding' to acquire the former from the Premier that the consultant once worked for because that's just the way government works now (ie. working both sides against the middle in a 'conflicty' kind of way)....Therefore everything is OK/fine and dandy....

Then the Watercarrier says that Tieleman would be doing it too (ie. working both sides against the middle in a conflicty way) if the NDP were elected in May....

Spector goes on to say that what people are buying is 'access' and that's just the way it is (does Mr. Spector even understand what the heckfire he is saying?!!!!!)........

Watercarrier then cuts to commercial....Comes back....Watercarrier asks Spector if Railgate is a 'scandal' that has legs (after a set-up that clearly telegraphs that he would like a negative answer during his pre-amble).....Spector dances, waffles and goes to Paul Martin, Chretien and Iggy (wtf???!!)....

Spector finally says it won't ultimately matter with the public because there are no 'cash-stuffed' envelopes like Mulroney-Schreiber.....(Ya, right Mr. Spector....I mean, who needs envelopes when you have $6K per month retainers that roll in every single month for more than three years).....

Watercarrier then cuts it off for another commercial that leads into the news (showing once again that he's tough, tough, tough as, what?, jello? on the CEO's gov't, sheesh)....

First caller...takes Spector to task re: conflictyness sucks....it's the way things shouldn't be done....Watercarrie changes the subject...Devolves into STV discussion...OK, Spector now says he decries the conflictyness (after he just said it was OK and won't matter in the upcoming election....I really wonder what's up, he seems to argue against himself half the time)....then Mr. Spector lists a bunch of countries, including Israel and says that prop rep. and minority gov'ts lead to the highest levels of corruption....

Second caller....Gordon Campbell came to power to take care of his friends....really goes to town on Translink/Regional Gov't....fellow is mad....but Mr. T. points out that he's a little mixed up manages to get it back to Kinsella and not registering as a lobbyist. Spector gets all wound up about policies being irrelevant because with lobbyists the only thing that matters is that their guy's in power....

More stinkin' commercials.... (although I must admit, I have not heard anything even approaching a discussion like this on, say, the Cluffmaster Flash's show in the last year or three).

Third caller....procedural...party leader above caucus....blah, blah, blah....caucus should be able to control things and tell a leader when and where to go...Spector says 'That's exactly what happened to Margaret Thatcher'.....(ya, sure, Thatcher, blah, blah, blah......but do these guys even remember what happened to caucus members who crossed the CEO right here in BC?).....Spector says that Campbell would be much more accountable if we had the British system (as he understands it)....

Fourth caller....absolute power corrupts...can't change system....but the thing that matter is economics....the NDP will screw us, because they only care about people not business...Tieleman challenges him....the guy has pat answers...I smell media monitoring....Watercarrier steps in immediately and cuts it off (surprise! again!)

I gotta get back to work.

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