Friday, February 07, 2025

Hopium Over Ottawa?


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Fed Lib firebrand Evan Scrimshaw took a lot of heat for his long time insistence that big changes, including a leader change, had to happen to protect the party from an electoral massacre.

And now, well, Mr. Scrimshaw just can't help but say 'I told you so':

...In late September, I did a podcast about Ontario, but at the end I teed off on the Federal circumstances, and the fact that there was no sense of urgency despite the fact that the Liberals had just lost a second safe seat Byelection weeks before. It was obviously an exaggeration - I was not, in a literal sense, the only person trying to get Trudeau to resign, but it wasn’t much of one. That my motives and my loyalty to country were so routinely maligned by those defending the PM was infuriating, because all of this came from a sincere belief that the Liberal Party unburdened by Trudeau would be at least in somewhat fighting shape. And I have been completely vindicated, with today’s Pallas release reaffirming again that this is a tight race...


And what is this vindication born of a one-off poll from an a polling outfit called Pallas all about this time Alfie?

This:



So.

Is this a real trend or just hopium for desperate Laurentianistas everywhere?


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13 comments:

e.a.f. said...

during the day read about another poll which advised if Carney were the Liberal leader the party would do better than another person. Can't remember the numbers but, who knows the Liberals may actually have a chance of remaining in office. Perhaps now the Trump is out and about, people may look at PP with a different view point. Those ads being carried by an organization I haven't heard about, aren't hurting the Liberals either.

Graham said...

I know that myself and others over at the Tyee have been saying the same as Scrimshaw for over a year, I am sure many others have too. It makes sense to anyone paying attention especially as polyester’s entire forever campaign has been built on hating jt and everything is broken. Removing jt from the equation would and is making polyester look like a fish out of water. His mouth is gasping for air now as he scrambles to find some relevance and balance his hate for Canada with trying to not look like he isn’t the maga north messiah and simultaneously appear like a leader, which he hasn’t since drumph got elected. Now we have smith about to flame out, hopefully, and put another nail in the chem trail crew.
Looking at those poll numbers you linked it looks like most of the up and down numbers for the libs come predominantly from the ndp and a bit from the ref/cons. The other parties keep pretty constant percentages.
If you look at the poll article from a couple weeks ago, just below the one you linked, at the poll site, the numbers were much worse for the libs so they are definitely ticking upwards with having jt planning his exit and the promise of a new leader.

Evil Eye said...

Funny how a month in Canadian politics seems like an eternity for the "Wee P's" Conservative/MAGA Party.

While the Mango Mussolini was threatening Canada, the "Wee P" was hob-nobbling with executives of American health Insurance types. Very bad optics.

We are at war, make no bones about it, the Mango Mussolini wants Canada and the time has come to to decide if one is a "Churchill" or is one a "Quisling".

We see by the "Wee P's" continued optically blind missteps that the conservatives are squarely on the "Quisling" side.

Two take aways: 1) I will vote Liberal (for the first time this centruy) for the Liberals and 2) The NDP, under Singh maybe vaporized in the next election.

As i have said for the past month, either one is a "Churchill" and vote accordingly, or one is a "Quisling" and vote for the dissolution of Canada.

Recent events have certainly shown that the majority of Canadians are "Churchill's" and that is giving nightmares to the "Wee P's" electoral strategists!.

Danneau said...

Sadly, it would be something of a pyhrric victory if history is any indication of what Liberal governments can be expected to do once elected. Clearly, polls showing PP with a commanding lead have been a grinding concern as it seems clear that the Cons have given pretty telling hints at what they would be about, and none of it bodes well for the bulk of Canadian citizens, but the Liberals protect their privileged back room in almost every instance against the incursion of anything progressive, including the somewhat-enlightened promises to which they often resort in the quest for electoral backing. Some level of despair is attached to the duopoly of governance that has characterized Canada since its inception: no other party has been able to break through to government status, and a crisis, such as that which now confronts us (speaking of the nastiness and clown show to the south) virtually locks out the possibility of a third party making a good showing. This struck me as I was wrapping up a visit to my ophthalmologist the other day, visits that always end with a brief exchange on current readings. I mentioned that I've been reading Steve Keen's The New Economics, following on from readings of Kelton and Piketty, and mused that it almost seemed an exercise in futility, given the remoteness of the possibility that any of this might percolate into the political process, even though one of Keen's theses is that any economics that condones the idea of externalities and which is deaf to the second law of thermodynamics is ultimately condemned to catastrophic failure. Then I recalled that the whole book talk thing had started around the discovery that we had both read A Canticle for Liebowitz, a long-ago doomsday scenario that seems increasingly probable. There was some wistful sighing.

Grant G said...

Canadianism and trust are the 2 issues at play.

Liberals will blast out a Viva la Canada campaign..

So will the NDP and the Cons...

Bur the trust issue is the key..

Many Canadians were neutral on Trump pre 2024 election...even Canadians who disliked Trump never believed(pre election) that he would go this far, this bad, so early.

Canadians may be hesitant of the Liberals, but they know there will be no extreme shocks or national betrayals after the election..

With the Cons, not so much....Trust will be PP's downfall.

There will be no majority government after our election..

Mr. Carney, I do believe will work well with the NDP

NVG said...

United States of North America

RossK said...

eaf--

As evidence that the times they really are a changin' here, Mr. Scrimshaw notes that, apparently, PPoilievre is planning a major re-branding.

We shall see.

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RossK said...

Graham--

What if, post-election, it's really close and the Bloc has enough seats to wield the balance of power thingy in a minority government?

On the flip side, what if that shrinking piece of Orange pie helps Mr. Singh change his parliament dissolving mind?

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RossK said...

EE--

As mentioned to Graham, above, I wonder if, perhaps, Mr. Singh will have a change of heart re: dissolving parliament?

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RossK said...

Danneau--

For today at least, I'm not sure anything tickles my fancy more than learning you do things like talk about ACfL with your eye guy!

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RossK said...

But Grant...

Would Mr. Carney get along with the Bloc?

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GarFish said...

As for the Bloc, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Keith said...

RossK

But Grant...

Would Mr. Carney get along with the Bloc?

Or would Mr. Blanchette get along with the Liberals. ?

https://nationalpost.com/news/liberals-are-surging-back-in-quebec-bring-it-on-says-leader-of-the-bloc