Oversight?
WeDon'tNeedNoStinkingOversightVille
As Laila points out on the Twittmachine, it's hard to believe that the Trudeau government would approve permits for a massive hydroelectric project that the provincial government's own oversight body is not allowed to, well, you know...oversee.
It's something that makes you wonder if, indeed, Marky Mark and the Godfather still have some pull with the mandarins in Ottawash.
Anyway....
As Jonny Wakefield notes in Glacier's far northern press organs, many of the locals are not happy.
And that includes folks whose livelihood will be directly affected by Mr. Trudeau's 'permits' (and who likely have a decent Charter challenge in their back pockets):
Justin Trudeau’s government has authorized its first set of Site C permits, allowing construction to continue on the controversial $8.8 billion project.
Critics of the dam say the approval quashes any hopes they had of the new government delaying or further reviewing Site C...
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...The West Moberly and Prophet River First Nations continue to challenge the project in court, saying flooding the Peace River Valley will disrupt their ability to exercise Treaty rights. The two nations will be in federal court in Montreal this September...
Something tells me that this is not over regardless all of our fine Premier's word salad-spun promises to get the project in cronification 'past the point of no return'.
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That certainly is a bloody disappointment. Many believed Trudeau would be more "sensitive" towards the environment. Not so much we see now.
Will have to check what party this riding is represented by.
e.a.f.--
Not to mention the promise to 'renew relationships' with FN's.
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Justin, ashamed of you. I believe you dad would not be happy with this turn of events. Just who are you catering too? Certainly not the good citizens of BC who are so against this unneeded, detrimental, high cost and growing debt to us, disaster to the finest agriculture land in the province. Really Justin? Shame, for shame.
SH:
I can't believe I would have voted for J.T. if it had come down to voting strategically. That he would be the wind beneath Sneaky's wings is deeply disappointing. The Power Corps kids must be well pleased.
SH:
Elizabeth May's support of the opponents of Site "C", have made her stock go up with me. I imagine she cringes at the memory of her energetic gig as J.T.'s hype-girl.
http://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/regional-news/site-c/paddle-for-the-peace-takes-on-new-political-urgency-1.2301413
Very disappointing news.
No surprise. Liberals are Harper lite. Same old cronyism. As most voters are only paying attention in the last few weeks of an election. We pay for a very uneducated electorate. Poophead!
If I may add....You see Ross K and company....Site C dam can be advertised as green renewable energy...
Petronas PNW LNG project is going to get rejected, because it is a carbon bomb...
So, the ball is in Christy Clark and John Horgan's court...Without LNG, there is no justification or need of the power....BC Hydro is drowning in excess un-sellable hydroelectric power...
Right now Mr. K...as in today, the highest enemployment rate is in the Peace region, the only bright light for northern workers is Site C...
delinquency rates for property taxes is skyrocketing....once , eer, I mean if you take Site C away from the north during a gas worker depression...well, those towns die real fast..
Oh indeed, I agree that Site C dam is a boondoggle, a waste of money, in fact it would be cheaper to send $500 million a year to idled gas workers than to proceed with Site C....
It is all about critical calculations with Justin Trudeau...Site C dam, a waste of money, energy will never be needed, the project riddled with graft...however, it can be sold to the Canadian and world public as "green clean renewable" power...
Petronas will get the federal snub, ..for two reason, number 1..LNG is a carbon bomb....number 2....Petronas doesn't want to go forward anyway...the federal snub is what Petronas wants..that way they can blame a distant federal government for bailing on B.C.
Still with Site C.....Supreme court has the potential to shur down Site C...the BC NDP can shut down Site C if elected, if they have the courage...
However...Believe me, with LNG not coming to B.C...with industrial power use in decline, longterm decline...BC Liberals probably wish someone stops Site C...Christy Clark will wear it...
Not many Peace region ridings to win...a whole bunch of hydro buying ridings in GVRD...Rates are going up...BC Hydro(thanks to Norm Farrell and a few others) is now getting some attention..
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Drop in industrial demand to cost BC Hydro $3.5 billion
http://vancouversun.com/business/energy/drop-in-industrial-demand-to-cost-bc-hydro-3-5-billion
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When LNG fizzles for good in BC....Site C dam, $15 billion for 3000 5 year jobs...
Cheers
Grant--
So what you're saying is that this is a sop/horse trade in which the Feds kill (the already dead sparkle ponies that never were) LNG and give the go ahead for this 'green' stuff in return.
I can see the Wizards on both teams rubbing their hands with glee over that.
And it sounds like the kind of deal the Godfather and his elements might have brokered.
Government by calculated PR triangulation at both the Fed and Prov levels.
Voila - 'Government Without Governance' (or policy)
Sheesh.
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Already deeply indebted BC Hydro wants to spend $9 billion on Site C, while industrial power demand in BC falters, in doing so flooding 83 km of land along the Peace River.
Insane?
Hugh--
Re: The insanity?
I dunno for sure...
Perhaps someone should ask the BC Utilities Commission to look into it.
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Geeze cant believe that he went along with these B.C.Liarbel Loonies he is going to make a problem for himself with the First Nations nobody wants to see Harpos henchmen back,But Trudeau is going to take a major hit over it.Who knows after Eby gets more air time he just might have the stuff Layton was made of,he is already showing his intelligence,honesty,and determination, personal attacks and lies by the slime of this desperate Government led by Clacko Wackho Aho does not seem to phase him.
In regards to the potential prov/fed arrangement.
The court has the potential to shut it down, based on treaty rights. Perhaps Trudeau gave the green light to appear to be in support of jobs in the Peace River knowing full well that the court case starts in September and the previous Northern Gateway court decision couple with lack of demand and climbing BC Hydro debt will shut the whole thing down or tie it up in court.
Most voters will remember - the ever increasing monthly financial hit - especially at this point in our commodity bust and economic cycle and the world outside looks unkind.
davemj--
Eby does have it.
Which is precisely why they are going after him
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Anon-Above--
Interesting point.
Clearly the Keef, who has decided, once again, to rub our noses in it does not agree (post coming).
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Well I guess Justin's pre-election hike up grouse mountain ad was all for show. His sympathies were, and will always be, east of the Rockies.
@ 7:04 pm, July 29, 2016
In regards to the keefer. I find him to be the obnoxious child behind the school yard bully - yapping into thing air. I take it he lacks a degree of true self awareness. Besides I am boycotting him and the rest of the MSM repeaters. I thought it would be tough for me to do - being a news junky, but in the end I wasn't really getting the news anyways - it was a one sided opinion. V Palmer is nauseating to listen to and the spin is subtle but very telling. It is really telling when you get visit foreign news to get a better opinion of what is happening in BC.
Our media goes about their business as if the internet did not exist. Peer to Peer news validated with facts is the future of news. I suspect you will start to see the old boys retire and try to save face.
Site C gets go ahead permits just in time from the Feds to meet Clark's point of no return schedule.
It is all so sickening listening to the high-five victory bable of Baldrey and his Babe yesterday and this morning reading the sycophantic cheerleading of Vaughn Palmer. We have been sold down the river, over promised pipe dreams we do of want. Two SparkelSparkel ponies that get Ms Clark to 'Yes' but at what cost to us citizens that pay for her party and 1% club sponsors?
The Prime Minister knows what he is doing I believe and after careful analysis and probably a decision to keep Minister Raybold-Wilson's lawyers home from the court appeals in September he can escape unscathed. Leaving a beat up and bruised BC Premier to wear all of it.
Even with new appointments to the BCUC, the economics and the costs to do geotechnical repairs to the small amount of work that has already been done, the project will fail there.
It is hard to imagine that the Prime Minister would want to accept responsibility for any of Clark and Co.'s poor ideas. Whether constitutionally required as the lap dogs are saying or not.
I'll have to review some federal Liberal inside history to see who is la Martinite or Chretienite as far as west coast influence goes.
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