RockSolidVille
Sam Cooper gives a short overview of the latest, re: the 2015/16 directive to check the source(s) funds being used by VIP gamblers in British Columbia casinos, from the Cullen Inquiry:
Too bad the folks involved at the time could not/did not contact the good Mr. de Jong directly, in writing, about all this so that they could have determined exactly what the policy/directive was in this regard.
Unfortunately, such an approach would have likely been very difficult, at least digitally, back in the day because, well, you know:
...“Some people are more comfortable with modern technology than others,” said (then premier Christy) Clark. “Mike (de Jong) is a farmer. And I know that some farmers use email, I know that some don’t. And he is one of them. I’m not going to force him to use email. I’m not going to force him to stop using his rotary phone.”...
Imagine that!
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The quote, above, taken directly from sound producing device of the Word Saladarian-In-Chief at the time, is from a piece from Cassidy Olivier published in the Province in the spring of 2016 which is precisely when all this apparent 'regulation' of the Whaling Industry was going down...Of course, another possible explanation, as espoused earlier in the life of the BC Liberal government by way of the Dobell Doctrine, is that eliminating Email helps to prevent the generation of a digital, FOIable, paper trail...
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Mr. de Jong provided the nudge and wink necessary for the illegal deal that ended the BCRail trial, the nudge and wink that unleashed the witch-hunt resulting in the health researcher firings and suicide, and the nudge and wink that precluded any timely intervention in damaging foreign investment in the Vancouver real estate market.
It should come as no surprise then that he nudged and winked his way through the casino laundromat.
He didn’t use e-mail, and his predecessor didn’t “deal in paper”. Those are traits one would expect from the bad guys, not the.......uh-oh.
Lew--
Excellent, demonstrably factual points!
And, as Sam Cooper points out, neither Mr de Jong nor his predecessor have appeared before the Cullen Commission...
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In your link: https://pacificgazette.blogspot.com/2012/11/doubling-down-on-dobell-doctrine.html
There is this link:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/petraeus-used-canadian-navy-spy-s-email-trick-1.1172104
Petraeus and Broadwell wrote intimate messages as draft emails in a shared Gmail account, allowing them to see one another's messages, but without a trail of internet-protocol (IP) addresses.
Like Delisle, Petraeus and Broadwell were apparently using the trick — known to terrorists and teenagers alike — to conceal their email traffic, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.
They composed at least some of their messages on Gmail, and instead of transmitting them, left them in a draft folder or in an electronic "dropbox," the official said.
Then the other person could log onto the same account and read the draft emails there. That avoided creating an email trail that would be much easier to trace.
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Sooooo is this how De Jong and Coleman 'communicate'
NVG--
'Tis called 'foldering'. The beauty is that nothing travels over the webs except the shared logins and passwords.
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Yeah, but, why send 'all of us' down the rabbit hole to find the ONE commentator with the goods on Coleman and de Jong et al
Anonymous said...
Is this how the BC Liberals communicate?
Petraeus used Canadian navy spy's email trick
Sharing Gmail account without ever sending mail hides tracks
How would you word an FOI to find out?
8:40 pm, November 13, 2012
At the time there was a lot of triple deleting taking place.
In the link to the Province article although mike wasn’t e-mailing he was receiving written info.
“Elizabeth Denham’s report concluded government staff routinely triple-delete emails to avoid FOI requests. Clark ordered all staff and ministries to cease the practice. However, within CKNW’s FOI return was an email from de Jong’s chief of staff saying the minister “does not participate in email.”
In a written response, the ministry of finance said the minister has a “longstanding practice of requiring” government information — including briefing notes, decision notes, memos and correspondence — to be delivered to him on paper, rather than email.
“Correspondence to and from the minister and ministry is documented and retained as required legislation, and is available under the provisions of the (Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy) Act,” the statement read. “His choice not to receive information or hold conversations by email is a matter of personal preference as a way to manage and prioritize the volume of information his portfolio already entails.”
So would there not be a literal paper trail of records somewhere if the article is correct.?
I spent over two years, including over a year participating in a written inquiry conducted by the info commissioner, attempting to obtain records related to the secret BC Rail plea agreement conducted by one branch of de Jong’s ministry. That agreement was separate from the public plea agreement arranged by another branch of his ministry and without it the public one would not have happened. I was unsuccessful, but did obtain a listing of all records (including transmittals) and a subject descriptor of each, including the number of pages involved. The commissioner’s office assured me that constituted the entire record.
Because I already had obtained certain records from other sources, I was able to ascertain that de Jong featured in none of them. Once details were eventually leaked to Global that was confirmed. Prior to that however he told the public three different versions of how the deal was concluded and who was involved. In one of those he stated that he had approved the deal. It must have been a paperless approval, which is in keeping with what I was told by a very reliable source a few years back: “He’s always there but never there, if you know what I mean.”
Maybe it’s hard to keep your story straight if you have no notes to jog your memory. I’m betting his legal representative (at our expense) is working hard with him to overcome that handicap in preparation for the Cullen inquiry. “I wasn’t there,” won’t be an open option.
laughed like hell when I once again read Christy's comment about de Jong being a farmer and not using e-mail, as if farmers were too backward to use the latest in techology. people actually bought that b.s. Agriculture's use of technology is well know, of course the people of B.C. or some were too stupid to not believe Christy or not challenge her. Oh, right that was the MSM. the rest of us knew.
doubt if deJong or Coleman, etc will be called or if they do they'll most likely pled the Canadian equivilent of the 5th.
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